Andrew Chang wore a navy blue nylon jacket over a light grey zip-up hoodie and white button-down shirt for this sobering look at what wildfire death tolls leave out. A silver ring was the only accent — understated dressing for an important conversation.

Find the Look: Navy Blue Nylon Jacket · Light Grey Zip-Up Hoodie · White Button-Down Shirt · Silver Minimalist Ring

About the episode: This episode of “About That” investigates the challenges of accurately calculating death tolls following natural disasters, using Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico and the Maui wildfires as examples. It explores the concept of ‘excess deaths’ and the difficulties in attributing deaths to a disaster when underlying health conditions and disrupted infrastructure are factors.